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A photographer recounted how he witnessed a conversation between Kuchma and the Chinese leader about nuclear weapons

A photographer recounted how he witnessed a conversation between Kuchma and the Chinese leader about nuclear weapons

Svitlana Sheremetieva
Svitlana Sheremetieva

Editor-in-Chief

A photographer recounted how he witnessed a conversation between Kuchma and the Chinese leader about nuclear weapons
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Photojournalist Yefrem Lukatsky on how he witnessed a conversation between Ukraine’s second president, Leonid Kuchma (who served as president of Ukraine from 1994 to 2005) with Chinese leader Jiang Zemin (who served as president of the People’s Republic of China from 1993 to 2003) about nuclear weapons.

Lukatsky spoke about this in an interview with "Shelter."

In particular, the photographer heard Jiang Zemin urging Kuchma to allow Ukraine to retain its nuclear weapons.

I took a few photos… and was thinking of leaving, but then Jiang Zemin—who spoke Russian, having once worked in Dniprodzerzhynsk—turned to Kuchma, pointed at me, and asked, “Can we talk in front of him?” And Kuchma says, “Yes, you can.” I was forced to stay for the entire three hours of the negotiations. And it was truly… such a pleasure for me, because Jiang Zemin is very fond of Confucius. And I love reading Confucius. And he spoke the whole time using Confucian parables. And at that moment, he was persuading Kuchma not to give up nuclear weapons

Yefrem Lukatsky
photographer

During Leonid Kuchma’s presidency, Ukraine completed the removal and complete dismantlement of the nuclear arsenal inherited from the USSR and signed the Budapest Memorandum in December 1994 in exchange for political security guarantees.

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      Svitlana Sheremetieva

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      She has been working in journalism since 2013. Before founding “Shelter,” she served as editor-in-chief of the online media outlet “Apostrophe” and as deputy general director of the RBC-Ukraine news agency.

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